The Saturn Mystery

[scarletharlot]

The very best mystery, to my mind, is the strange hexagonal formation encircling the north pole of SATURN... this phenomenon was spotted by Voyager years ago as it swept past Saturn, and was still there when Cassini-Huygens photographed it. the scientists have NO explanation how such a thing is even possible... Saturn is composed of HYDROGEN, thus it is a "star seed".

Much has been made of Saturn as a 'dark, heavy"planet, but it is PALE in colour and LIGHT in weight; if Space were composed of water, Saturn would FLOAT in it like a beach ball! So much for 'dark and heavy'! Saturn is only slightly smaller than Jupiter and its rings are only 150 miles thick.

The Saturn probe Cassini-Huygens arrived at its rendezvous within an HOUR of the estimated time of arrival, which seems appropriate since Saturn is about discipline and promptness..it is a weird fact that the experience of the space probes seems to "mirror" the astrological attributions of their planets; the Mars probe cost the scientists a bit of a STRUGGLE; they had to FIGHT with it to get it to work...the signal from the Mercury probe would inexplicably disappear and then re-appear; this happened again and again, which would seem to be in line with Mercury's rep as the "trickster". I didn't hear about any troubles with the Venus and Jupiter probes, but then, they ARE easy-to-get-along-with planets...

[Sammy]

I hadnt heard of this! Im intrigued though. I have heard some things about the "saturn cycle" wich im sure youve heard of being well versed in astrology. But that is how long it takes for saturn to do a complete cycle around the sun, from where it was placed when you were born. Which I guess takes something like 30 years.

The reason this was wierd was because I was noticing big jumps of consciousness in people at the ages of 10, 20, and a realy big one at 30. Coincidence?

Just found this pic... really cool. Looks wobbly.

[Sammy]

About Venus, it has been the biggest stumbling block for exploration.

Sputnik 7
Failed Venus probe attempt (USSR)
Launch: February 4, 1961
The final stage of the rocket carrying Sputnik 7 into orbit failed and the spacecraft was unable to achieve the necessary trajectory to carry it on to Venus.

Venera 1
Failed Venus probe attempt (USSR)
Launch: February 12, 1961
Communications with the spacecraft was lost while Venera 1 was on its way to Venus.

Mariner 1
Failed Venus flyby attempt (NASA)
Launch: July 22, 1962
Shortly after launch, the rocket veered off course and was destroyed by ground controllers.

Sputnik 19
Failed Venus probe attempt (USSR)
Launch: August 25, 1962
The spacecraft made it into Earth orbit, but the rocket's last stage failed and Sputnik 19 was unable to achieve its Venus trajectory. It re-entered Earth's atmosphere three days later.


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Mariner 2
NASA/JPL

Mariner 2
Successful Venus flyby (NASA)
Launch: August 27, 1962
Venus flyby: December 14, 1962
Mariner 2 was the first spacecraft to successfully fly by Venus, at an altitude of 34,773 kilometers. The spacecraft discovered ground temperatures as high as 428°C (800°F). Other instruments detected no water vapor in the atmosphere or any evidence of a magnetic field around the planet. Radio contact was lost on January 3, 1963.

Sputnik 20
Failed Venus probe attempt (USSR)
Launch: September 1, 1962
The rocket's final stage failed and the spacecraft was unable to achieve to escape Earth orbit.

Sputnik 21
Failed Venus probe attempt (USSR)
Launch: September 12, 1962
The 3rd stage of the rocket exploded shortly after liftoff, destroying the spacecraft.

Venera 1964A
Failed Venus flyby attempt (USSR)
Launch: February 19, 1964
The rocket carrying the spacecraft failed to reach Earth orbit.

Venera 1964B
Failed Venus flyby attempt (USSR)
Launch: Mar. 1, 1964
The rocket carrying the spacecraft failed to reach Earth orbit.

Cosmos 27
Failed Venus flyby attempt (USSR)
Launch: March 27, 1964
The final stage of the rocket carrying the spacecraft into orbit failed and it was unable to achieve the necessary trajectory to carry it on to Venus.

Zond 1
Failed Venus probe attempt (USSR)
Launch: April 2, 1964
Communications with the spacecraft was lost while on its way to Venus.


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Venera 2
Credit: NSSDC

Venera 2
Venus flyby attempt (USSR)
Launch: Nov. 12, 1965
Venera 2 flew within 24,000 kilometers (15,000 miles) of Venus on February 27, 1966, but communications with the spacecraft was lost just before its close approach with the planet.


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Venera 3
Credit: NSSDC

Venera 3
Venus probe attempt (USSR)
Launch: Nov. 16, 1965
Venus impact: March 1, 1966
Venera 3 was the first spacecraft to land on (impact) another planet, but no data was returned. It is believed that Venus's thick atmosphere and crushing pressure destroyed the spacecraft on its way to the surface.


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Venera 4
Credit: NSSDC

Venera 4
Successful Venus probe (USSR)
Launch: June 12, 1967
Venus arrival: October 18, 1967
When Venera 4 arrived at Venus it dropped several instruments, including a thermometer and a barometer, into the atmosphere. It received data back from these probes before it deployed a parachute and descended into the atmosphere itself. Preliminary readings seemed to indicate that the probe had taken measurements all the way down to the surface, but later analysis suggested that the crushing atmosphere damaged the spacecraft at an altitude of almost 25 kilometers. The probe revealed an atmosphere made almost entirely of carbon dioxide, with temperatures ranging from 40°C high up in the atmosphere to 280°C closer to the surface, and pressures ranging from 15 to 22 atmospheres.


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Mariner 5
Credit: NASA/JPL

Mariner 5
Successful Venus flyby (NASA)
Launch: June 14, 1967
Venus flyby: October 19, 1967
Mariner 5 flew within 4,000 kilometers (2,400 miles) of the Venusian cloud tops. During its flyby, the spacecraft measured a surface temperature of 267°C.

Cosmos 167
Failed Venus probe attempt (USSR)
Launch: June 17, 1967
The final stage of the rocket carrying the spacecraft into orbit failed and it was unable to achieve the necessary trajectory to carry it on to Venus.


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Venera 5 or 6
Credit: NSSDC

Venera 5
Successful Venus probe (USSR)
Launch: January 5, 1969
Venus arrival: May 16, 1969
Upon its arrival Venera 5 deployed a parachute and descended through the thick atmosphere. Scientists received 53 minutes worth of data as the spacecraft descended 36 kilometers (22 miles). The spacecraft was damaged by the tremendous atmospheric pressure before it reached the surface.

Venera 6
Successful Venus probe (USSR)
Launch: January 10, 1969
Venus arrival: May 17, 1969
Twin to Venera 5, Venera 6 arrived just a day after its sister ship. Once at Venus, the spacecraft deployed a parachute and descended through the atmosphere. Scientists on Earth received 51 minutes of data as the probe descended 38 kilometers (almost 24 miles). The spacecraft was damaged the crushing pressure before it reached the surface.


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Venera 7 capsule
. Credit: NSSDC

Venera 7
Successful Venus probe (USSR)
Launch: August 17, 1970
Venus arrival: December 15, 1970
When Venera 7 arrived it deployed a parachute and began its descent to the surface. Scheduled to take 60 minutes to descend, the probe touched down in only 35 minutes, possibly because its parachute may have been damaged by high winds. The spacecraft then transmitted a weak signal for 23 minutes, becoming the first spacecraft to return data from the surface of another planet. It reported surface temperatures of 475°C and atmospheric pressures 90 times greater than Earth's.

This was JUST to get feedback. There is about 20 more failed/succesfull missions, including one with a mechanical arm fitted with a drill to test the ground compisition. Everything was going good, all the instruments had survived the entry through the atmosphere. It released meters of all kinds on the way down. Once it landed it popped off a lens cap for the camera to take pictures of the surface. It sent out the arm to have it grab some chunks of dirt/rocks and goes right into the lens cap from the camera. No other adjustable movements could be done and the arm was a fail, but the probe was otherwise a complete success HAHA.